The Debra Hunter Pitts Testimony
Wes Penre Interviews Debra Hunter Pitts, Who Started 'Militia
One' with Eric
Clapton and Carlos Santana
by Wes Penre, Feb 01, 2008
Introduction by Wes Penre
Debra Hunter Pitts
his is the
amazing and shocking testimony of Debra Hunter Pitts, who grew up in
Butler County, Missouri in the 50s and 60s - a major Satanic
part of the United States at that time, where human sacrifice
was happening every day. Debra
grew up with her Satanic step-father, Jack and her step-mother,
Helen, and she was
beaten bloody on a daily basis by her step-mother for
years and years for no other reason than looking at her. All
this trauma had her develop manic
depression, which she is fighting against up to this day.
person decent enough to try and help her was her grandfather,
who did everything in his power to make police and authorities
pay attention and have this insanity stop, but there was nowhere
to turn, because police and Government on high levels were
involved in this Satanic cult as well, and therefore no one
wanted the truth to come out.
It was getting
worse. Debra was a witness to how Terry Johnson, in charge of
the county and a top CIA/Nazi, literally cut a pregnant woman
open on the alter she lay on and cut out a baby boy. There were
many women and children killed and Debra learned that they had
been abducted from other states.
culmination of this horror happened when one day she became a
witness to mass graves on Jack Chittenden's, her step-father, property, where she
and her 'family' lived! Jack owned some acres of land on which
the house where they lived in was standing, and behind the house
there was a wood, also his property, where mass graves were
located. The corpses belonged to young people, who had been
sacrificed in Satanic rituals over time. According to Debra, around 300 bodies
were buried there, mostly women, and they all looked like they had
been starved in a concentration camp, which the Nazis claimed
were actually being used in the timeframe we are discussing
say, this was extremely traumatic for Debra, and still there was no help
to get anywhere, it seemed.
Already as a
young girl, Debra became aware of this huge conspiracy taking
place in Butler County; a conspiracy so vast that it could be
traced all the way up to the highest levels of the US Government
- and above! Debra generally call these people "The Nazis",
which is what they are (among many other things), but they are better known as the
Illuminati these days. This young girl learnt from being brought
up amongst those Insiders that a coup had overthrown our
democratic way of life in the United States, but that the
takeover was not complete.
The Satanic rituals she
witnessed were just a part of the whole conspiracy - these
people ARE Satanists and occultists and human sacrifice is
common practice in those circles. For those who still refuse to
believe that, please dedicate some research to it, and a very
scary picture will evolve. A great deal of this occult
conspiracy is revealed on this website, and Debra's story corresponds
well with this research.
Debra felt she
had to do something about this whole conspiracy, and already as a teenager she
founded "Militia One", a resistance group with
intention to stop the coup with a revolution. Famous people were involved in
this Militia Group, such celebrities as Eric Clapton and
Carlos Santana, with whom she has kids, and they had
support from people in Hollywood as well.
1984-85, the FBI and the Treasury Department paid a visit to the
mass graves and removed the bodies. Debra then thought that
maybe now there would be some justice, but that didn't happen. No bodies seem to
ever have been returned to their families and nothing was mentioned about it in the media,
which makes sense when you know that mainstream media is owned
by the same people that were planning the coup. The cover-up is total.
But as we
shall see, Militia One was the driving force at stopping (or at
least seriously halting and interrupting) the biggest threat towards United States
Sovereignty in history - a total takeover of this country by the
Illuminati, which has been infiltrating and
infecting a big part of our Government for a long time! We know that the Illuminati are still on their way of
getting there, but since Militia One's interference, they have had to try
other tactics, which they are still planning and working on as we speak.
How did Debra
survive something like this? She says she has her deep faith in
God and that has helped her through her trauma a great deal and
has been her 'rock' to hold on to all these years.
So this is the
true story of a few American and British heroes, who sacrificed
everything for us and the country they lived in, knowing that
all the work they did with risk for their own lives may even go
unrecognized by the world. However, I hope that this article
will reveal the truth to at least some people, who then can
repeat the story to others.
Debra contacted me because
she had read
and Roll and Mind Control' section of my website, and felt
that this would be the forum to tell her story.
Also, for more
information and background on Debra Hunter Pitts, please listen
to her being interviewed by the researcher and radio host Greg
Szymanski in 2006. The interview can be
listened to and downloaded online.
Now I am proud
to let you take part of this exclusive interview I did with
Debra in January, 2008:
Illuminati News Presents:
The Wes Penre Interview with Debra Hunter Pitts,
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers
of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in
high places. Ephesians 6:12.
Can you tell me a little bit about your childhood and how you
first got connected with the music industry?
I was born in 1955 in Butler County, Missouri and about 1958
Sheriff Massingham, who was a Nazi Satanist, got wind of me and my
twin sister being smart. We were born on the 13th and had
psychic powers and photographic memories.
The courthouse in many
counties was headquarters and it was in my county too. The
sheriff and Terry Johnson, a brutal psychopath CIA agent, a
pedophile and child murderer [see the Introduction Section
above, editor's note], who was the top person in the
county, schemed to have us put with two different Nazi families.
We stayed in the county for our childhood years but I had to
pretend not to know I had a sister, and she, Barbara had to
pretend not to like me.
Our early years were traumatic as we were
forced to live in the same house with Nazi serial killers. Over
the years pleas for help were ignored because the places we
turned for help were infiltrated and they knew which one of us
kids not to help. Locally every department in the county was
taken over, and so was the governor's mansion and the Missouri
congressmen. If you check the website
Political Graveyard and Google there socialist, fascist,
freemason, etc you will see thousands of hits. Many of those involved
with running my state when I was a young girl are still involved in
Missouri politics one way or another.
I grew up
carrying my Bible around even to school and the kids called me
preacher as I gathered the kids around for a prayer and a song. At the same time I told the school kids,
"Follow me and I'll lead you to two kinds of freedom. Today you
can have spiritual freedom and someday you'll have physical
freedom." It was those kinds of speeches that the Nazis filmed and
took to Hollywood and bragged to people that I was a goldmine.
They wanted me because I was a child genius, but also I could
sing and dance so they wanted to make me into the next Shirley
Temple. More than anything they wanted me for a psychic show and
tell for "their cause/coup." The Nazi god was Lucifer
and their kings were the political evil axis running this
nation, and the world, as they referred to themselves as
untouchable. They had many kings up against my one Holy Royal
King and He was all I/we needed.
When I was in
Junior High us kids would hang around the flagpole after school
and talk for a minute before we got on the buses. The Nazis
would pose as limo drivers and body guards and bring movie
stars through the county. Some of them that I can remember
meeting was Jack Elam and Jay Silverheels, who played Tonto in
the Lone Ranger shows and the late bluesman John Lee Hooker. I
thought the Nazis were bringing them to the county to show them
the headquarters and scare them into never trying to expose the
One day in
1969, a white limo was parked out front of the school and I knew
it was someone famous but didn't know who. As I got closer to
the flagpole the window behind the driver went down and it was
Carlos Santana and on the passenger side was Eric
Eric Clapton (left). Photo taken
in the 1970s, and Carlos Santana (right). Photo from
the Woodstock era, around 1969
Eric told me
that Hollywood knew about the films and that they were ready to
follow. In other words money can't buy you freedom and I was the
only person they heard of that was making plans. Everyone that
the Nazis "entrapped" was wanting more info about just what
plans were being made. Remember the Nazis wanted me as a money
maker but more than that for psychic abilities. The famous folks
wanted contact with me to find out about the secret plans in
Butler County. It was obvious that the Nazis were cultists and it
was clear that it was an evil hand that required Gods hand to
stop. So the
Nazi and Hollywood wanted me for two different reason, but each
also knew fame was available to me.
The Nazis filmed me often and he saw a piece of film
where I said, "Follow me and I'll lead you to two kinds of
freedom..." In some of the films I would hold my Bible up and yell
that the Nazis are not going to get by with their crimes. I
would tell them someday somehow God was going to stop them and I
was going to get my own people gathered up and we where going to
get them. Sometimes I'd make the Nazi cameraman mad as I yelled
Why do you think all these celebrities chose you to lead
them? Why couldn't one of them lead?
We were without a government and would have followed
anyone in any county that could make plans, it just happen to be
me and a small group of good folks from my county. I knew I
didn't have anyone to follow and no one was making plans, that's
why I stepped into the role God called me for.
Wes: I see, and Butler
County at that time, as we talked about earlier, seems to have
been a center for the Conspiracy. Yes, I can see they did not
have much of a choice. You were the only one on site who wanted
to do something and had the inside information. So what happened
Debra: I knew the finances we needed to
expose the cultists was just at a beginning, but it got complicated
and people interfered and got in our way. At that same time I
had really been telling the Lord about how I need to keep my vow
of poverty and avoid the stage life making money for the Nazis.
Something told me I would be deeper in the trap if I was famous,
that I needed to trust the famous folks with the finance to end
In 1969 or 1970 Eric
nicknamed me Layla and I told Carlos to call me that too and it
would be my stage name for now on. I told Eric to think of the
Nazis as making a scary movie, and they don't like it if we're
not scared all the time; they don't want to see human emotions.
So we had to think of making our own movie and sometimes act
funny, play out a western, or my favorite, a skit we did
imitating "Gone With The Wind." The Nazis hated it because we
weren't scared at all times, but were practicing for a
movie to make in the future and did even make romantic comedy in July
1984 in Tarrant County, Texas.
Wes: I know from my research that the music industry is
an important indoctrination tool for the Secret Government and
that many musicians are introduced to Satanism and occultism in
general, mostly against their will, or they get introduced to it
under false pretences that it is just a 'gimmick'. Did you notice any of this?
Debra: We didn't think of it as a "secret" government,
but it was secret that we were making plans to stop them. Yes,
the music world and Hollywood were trapped by the organized
crime families, and they were the same Nazi Satanic group who
had contact with the devils in my county. I always heard the
real mafia was involved, so some of the Nazis may have been
mafia. We, who were victims, were under a 24 hour surveillance
that was meant to last our entire life; we were told there was
The people in music I met who came through my county
including Elvis Presley were not Nazis, but I believe what I read about
some of those in the biz that are actual Nazis. The
people I met in the biz would never be around the cultists any
more than I would if we had a choice. Unfortunately, we did not have that
About the time I met Eric and Carlos I founded Missouri Militia
One, a covert unit of only the most trusted local people. As I
was growing up I was approached several times by men I didn't
know, offering to help me gather evidence against the local
Nazis. I didn't trust any of them and knew at least some of
those men had to be Nazis. Because I had sworn revenge and had
said that I would form my own militia they were trying to
infiltrate the militia before it was even formed.
It was in 1969
I met a man that I actually trusted, and he volunteered to
collect a list of names of kidnapped people brought through our
county. I have to continue to keep him secret and refer to him
as General X. The Nazis, at this point not realizing that we had already
formed a covert militia, continued for a few years to offer to
be the leaders of the same. That was one heck of a good sign
that they didn't know what we were up to!
Eric had been
forced to go with the Nazis to a mass grave site at a new
location in 1971. He was terrified.
He said he wanted Interpol involved, but that they wouldn't send
a man in to investigate without a contact to trust.
wanted me to be the first contact, he wanted
them to get to know me before they got here. Eric wanted me to
make some videos of the songs I wrote and turn those songs into
an album. He thought it wasn't enough so he made the plans for a
commercial and he decided on a DeBeers diamond commercial with
me and him at a white limo. The same day I made a DeBeers
commercial with Carlos on a Harley. The total value of the
diamonds was two millions dollars, one million of that for the
"Layla crown" Eric had made for my sixteenth birthday. A copy of
the music videos, the album and the commercials were sent to
Interpol so they would know a little bit about me.
I don't know
how much it cost to make the movie. I don't know how much my
gowns cost and equipment etc., other than Eric mentioned the
diamonds price. We never discussed finances, it was a non issue
to Eric and everyone else. War is expensive, it costs a fortune,
and we were up against a fortune in Nazi wealth. I was a pawn
that played dumb when I needed to and refused to be the goldmine
the Nazis wanted me to be. Eric and I misled them into thinking
someday they would be making money off of me, and this was our
plan, or they never would
have let us hang out together.
question Eric about why he did things his way. Eric wanted them to know that something
militarily was happening in the US and we needed help with it.
Fortunately, Interpol trusted me as their first contact.
Interpol person I met was Bob Jones (not his real name) and I
told him about the secret General X, our top secret militia
leader, and about the coup. His team began by putting the local
Nazi sheriff Clyde Hendrix under surveillance. The agents spread
out from there to state and federal departments in the state of
Missouri and found them infested with Nazis. The higher up in
the framework of our nation the agents looked, the more
they found. They gathered evidence until we made the movie to
expose the US government in 1984. There was no department not
infiltrated, therefore no department to trust with the evidence.
The agents kept the evidence safe. The fact that not even Interpol could find
a trustworthy person in the government alone should scare people...
Before we continue with your story, two questions come to mind:
I know that Eric Clapton (don’t know about Santana) was deeply
into heavy drugs like heroin and was also an alcoholic in the
1960s-1970s. Was his drug abuse due to his traumatic experiences
and how did he cope with that in conjunction with the
mission he had?
Debra: Eric was hooked off and on for a big part of his
adult life on heroin, cocaine and was an alcoholic. In the late 80s
he realized he had to get off all them wild horses that were
pulling him apart as a thinking functioning human. He knew he
was going to die if he didn't get straight. I knew someday he
would, because he was smart, in fact he is a brilliant man. I
don't know if the Nazis were the first to start him on drugs, but
he had a hard time with the Nazi entrapment. I never saw him for
all those years that he didn't cry, because there was so much
stress not knowing when or how we were going to pull it off, and
we knew we were in it for life and never would have given up on
trying to expose the coup. Life was not the fun and games that
people thought it was for famous people.
The first time I ever
saw Eric without the stress on his face was in 1990. I made sure
I told him he was my strength. I love him with all my heart; we
have two sets of twins, our oldest daughter is named Layla. As
far as his mission in life, let me put it in perspective like
this: Eric knew when he first heard about me that I needed a
dancing partner and he walked right into the role that God
intended for him and I can't image anyone I'd rather have than
the man God picked to play my leading man. Of the top players in
exposing the Nazis in 1984 it was Eric, Interpol, General X,
and myself; that tells you how important he was to the cause.
filmed every word Eric and I said when we were together because
they thought we were up to something that might expose them.
Someday when this cover up is over the public will see all kinds
of footage of us that has never been released. We never would have given up and let
the US go down in total defeat. Even if it took the rest of our
lives, we who were undercover for Interpol never would have
stopped trying and be defeated.
Eric is now happily married and living the life
he dreamed of. I wish him the best; when you love someone that's
what you should wish for them. I wish certain women would leave
him alone, though, he's too nice to tell them to back off.
Wes: From what I understand, both you and Eric were/are
Christian and your faith was a big part of your coping with the
cruel world you lived in. How did Carlos deal with everything,
what was his faith at the time? I don't think he was ever
Christian and in an interview in the 1990s,
I believe, Carlos Santana made it clear that he was deeply into
New Age and occultism. He talked about it a lot in the
interview. Also, was Carlos into drugs, too?
Carlos was a man that likes his Oro tequila and did
LSD back in the 60s. He is a complicated meditating
philosophical spiritually confused soul, even dabbing in New Age
and I hope someday he gets it right. He was never a Satanist and
I don't know what he was talking about occultism, but he wants
in tune with the spirit realm, we all do. He needs a crash
course in My Sweet Lord.
Carlos' and Debra's son together
Carlos is a gentle soul and was the
peace maker among us all. I love him dearly, we have a set of
twins and a son. He played a role in the Texas movie we made; it
was an all star cast. He and Eric understood that my role was
never about fame and fortune but about serving God, and by that
I mean fighting against the political-religious coup. I believe
that if God called any famous person away from the riches to
serve and stay in the background like I did, they would have.
I haven't seen him in
a year and the FBI don't allow much contact so we haven't had a
conversation in a while.
Why doesn't the FBI allow you to have contact with Carlos?
I don't know, I need answers too for some of my questions. I
don't know what restrains they are using, but I assume that all
victims are told to keep their mouth shut. The FBI since 1984 is
part of the "Federalist Unit", which is a covert US military
unit consisting of joint forces. They have kept me under
surveillance since 1984, which was the beginning of the
investigation/cover-up. The Nazis check up on me, Eric and all
victims, but they can't trap us like they once did. Remember
what I said about the Nazis infiltrated every department? I
don't know the percentage of that infiltration but they wanted
us to think that all FBI were Nazis. Imagine the shock when the
FBI found out in 1984 through the movie we made that some of
their men were involved in a coup.
We had to think in terms of futuristic because we couldn't stop
them, we were up against a lot of power (congressional) and
money, we didn't have what they had, a system of surveillance,
that is why Interpol's role was needed, that's why the famous
came calling, they knew we needed some kind of financing...
You told me a few days ago that even the British Government was
involved in all this, and that some forces in that government
were actually out to help you. Why did a foreign government want
to get involved in US affairs?
Debra: The US land mass is a huge area that had to be
stopped from becoming the biggest Nazi stronghold in the world.
Its take-over would have devastated the entire European world;
all of the European countries would have been easy to take down
after our demise. At the same time the globalization plan has
plummeted the Europe into chaos. That is part of the Nazi/NWO
plan. I am sure the US is going to lead to World War III just
like the NWO [New World Order] wanted in the first place.
The real issue
in my lifetime was that the Nazis had only one chance to take
over the US Government by infiltration. If that failed they
would never accomplish their mission of totally eliminating
democracy; not by infiltration anyway.
Wes: Please go on...
Debra: We thought it was going to get easy once we had
foreign agents doing surveillance on the Nazi devils who were
doing illegal surveillance on us. Once the Nazis got us, they put
wiretaps on our houses and phones; they didn't have to
have permission to tap us as part of their evidence game.
The Nazi mass
murderers around us were never under surveillance until Interpol
got here in 1971. To discredit us, the devils walked around calling us liars and
telling us no one would ever believe us. The men that surrounded our
houses 24 hours a day wanted us to know they were there as a
warning not to try to expose them; we were hostages/prisoners
of the coup. When a car went by, the devils lay down in the seat
and no one knew a group of Satanist were "patrolling" us. They
gathered and twisted up evidence on us, it was all kept recorded
by the underground secret police who call themselves Gestapo.
They accused us for many things, but everything was
just gossip as they tried to sway friends away from us, yes it
was hard to even have friends. They also forced us into porn. I
assume all of us, Eric, Carlos and myself were forced; however, the
blackmail tactics didn't intimidate us from fighting against
The cultists had certain issues to hide behind:
Their pit-bull women were pedophile serial killers too.
Cops got by with it for so many years because of being in
control of the destruction of evidence.
abuse. As long as they could get by with that, they knew
they were safe to roam the country and kidnap and bring victims
to Missouri. That was the local set-up and higher up in the Nazi
Satanic pyramid scheme was a covert or black state and federal
government that was less than honest about what party they were
affiliated with. We didn't have the NWO/secret government term
back then, we referred to everything as "black." We on the
inside didn't even see them as secret. The term Shadow
government I think was coined by Oliver North of the Iran Contra
scandal during those hearings.
When I first met General X he said, "We don't want women to help, we
don't want to hide behind women like they do." I
said, "It's different hiding behind a skirt like the enemy does
and having women stand beside you to help fight." When he said,
"Country first." I said, "No God first, everything else second. It's not just a flesh and
blood war, it's a spiritual war and there is a religion involved
controlling it that's pure evil."
I told him we have to use different terms than they
do and the term I suggested we use for the top
political-religious commander is "Black Hand." We coined the
title for the coup as the "Black Hand Regime" and at that
time, 1969, we were already calling it the Fourth Reich
and shortly before that calling it the Third Reich saying that
WWII never ended, it just came to the US. I believe the term the "Invisible
Curtain" originated in Butler county, symbolic like the terms
Iron Curtain and the Bamboo Curtain.
has been one of the most secret people you'll ever hear of,
making him one of the most protected people in the world. I told
him when I met him not to hesitate to kill a Nazi if need to. I
was thirteen years old at that first meeting.
1969 was a pivot year in this nation's history
although the truth goes untold as the government has chosen to
keep it covered up since the 1984 exposure. The repulsive Nazi flag covered in
innocent blood was stopped from being hung over our beautiful
nation in 1984.
Bob Jones, the
Interpol agent, asked me if
I wanted to know what the cultists really are and I told him no,
that I call them Nazis. I'll never forget the
look of fear on his face as he said, "Yes they are Nazis, do you
want to know more?" I said, "No, I can't stand no more."
Interpol realized the Nazis
had already almost taken over; but not 100%. The Nazis wanted us
brainwashed into thinking they had the nation completely. Once in a while
would say, "One of these days we're going to own this country."
That told me that the coup wasn't complete.
Our plan was for the men to have affairs and then the women
affairs and it looked like a lot of love was going on, but that's
how we passed information and evidence. We all had a role to play but my end of
it was always a little bit different than the typical victim
because they saw a huge money maker by using me, problem was I
refused to be the money maker or goldmine, as they called me. I
wasn't forced into prostitution, but the year I turned ten,
about 1965, I was for sale for $1,000 (that is part of the Nazi
instant millionaire game/conspiracy of silence, I did get sold
out at least two times that I know of.). The Nazi I lived with,
Jack Chittenden, tried to talk me into being a party girl for
politicians and pretended to give me a choice of Washington DC
or New York. He said I would have pretty dresses to wear.
Jack could have forced me to go to Washington DC. and I didn't
have a real choice; he could have let the Nazis send me
any place they wanted. The point is that it is true what people
are saying about the sex ring leading to Congress. The real
reason I wasn't sold is because his wife insisted that they keep
me. She knew I was worth money but they had a hard time
controlling me and I resisted going anywhere out of the county
(I needed to stay and make plans for a militia.) Jack's wife had
promised all her siblings that they were going to be
millionaires through me someday. Her siblings would be darn mad
if I got sold and she couldn't have them turn against her and
consider contacting the FBI.
People in this country believe they live in a democracy and
think they have all these rights. What is your view on that? Are
all these people walking around blindfolded?
Debra: I witnessed in
my lifetime a fascist propaganda machine that spoke the
democratic language. On the surface American citizens thought
they had freedom, that's what they were told. I watched as
contrary facts emerged of a political congress that was also a
religious congress all the while professing to oppose a
religious congress. Their system is a sinister occult one and the members are organized criminals involved in every
kind of perversion against humanity, against the nation, and
Our nation is
run by a dual government unrecognized by its own citizens,
unconfirmed in our own news press. One side we see and the other
one we don't; that secret one is emerging as evil incarnate
controlled by the very hand of Satan. Their clandestine fascist
military is intertwined with our own forces. That danger of
infiltration is exactly what Missouri Militia One had to avoid.
We, the people, involved in forming our own military unit, knew our
enemy was from within. They were creating their own
government, creating an enemy state within our borders. They
had taken us to the closest edge of extinction as they
established, without our voting permission, a
system that entrapped us. With all things being the opposite of
reality, the Nazis called us who were the freedom fighters the
enemy of the state. We as a relatively new nation watched as our
citizens disappeared by the thousands every year. They were
offered up on Lucifer's altar as human sacrifices to the dark
forces that our forefathers came here to escape, the wrath of
the Papal which called itself holy while engaged in Nazism.
We who were resistant formed our own military which promotes the
original form of democracy, yet knowing fully well democracy was
contrary to our Papal/congress. Our intentions were sworn to
restore that democratic way but would lead to more bloodshed in
order to halt our total overthrow in the bloody coup, which was a
one sided war. Our old form of government was one that we held
dear with all our mind set and all our being. It took from 1969
until 1984, fifteen years of covert intelligence by the secret
militia and Interpol agents, to expose the coup and therefore
stopping the handover of our flag for theirs.
led to a historical movement, a new covert American
military that we call Federalists, consisting of the federal
departments whose mission is to assassinate the most dangerous
minds of our time in the second revolution. The new
military, whose secret existence is needing to be told, needs to
emerge whether they are ready or not. It has taken more than two
decades and many of the Nazis and their sympathizers have been
taken out in what is the check mate of the coup.
You told me earlier that you have children with both Eric and
Carlos. From what I understand, you were never married to any of
At the first meeting Eric and Carlos both asked me to marry them.
I replied something like, "I might not marry any of you but I
might want a love child or two." I told them that my life was
far from normal, but if it would have been normal, I would find my one love in
life and settle down and start having the family I always wanted.
Eric used to say he wished it could be that way. I told them that we
would meet a lot a people in life and love more than one person.
I wanted to know that if I had a love child that it was because
love would last a lifetime, no breaking up games. Love can be
there without being physical. I couldn't marry anyone in the biz
before 1984, when we pulled off the exposure part of the plan.
Think of it
like this; the famous turned to us who were poor showing
that they felt deeper in the trap than we did. If I married in
the biz I couldn't be as underground as I knew I had to with
Interpol, and accomplishing my end of the plan. Our government
was so damaged that no one could trust anyone else.
After I got to
Tarrant county Texas in 1977, Eric and I played our roles of
stalling for time by dancing. We were hanging out at different
taverns saying we were needing the right kind of place for
videos. The tavern owners were all very nice to us and didn't
know how important it was to the plan. We were waiting on
Interpol to make a move and they were waiting to see what Eric
and I would do, and we got in a stalemate. If we made a mistake
it would accelerate the coup. The first people they would have
killed would be Eric and I; they actually tried.
The love children are protected so I can't say much. In 1971 Bob
Jones said he could take me out of the country, but the Nazis
would find me and kill me and my children. I told Bob I had to stay
in my country and do what I could to fight. We all had agreed to
never give up on trying to stop the Nazis.
I told Bob I
had 'female problems' and I need help in having children. I told
him that I would go to Ft. Worth Texas someday because a group
of Nazis there were making the trip to my hometown. I had to
live in a county with a federal building and some FBI. I told
him that when he sees I'm having female problems to make the arrangement
for me to donate eggs.
In 1979 Bob
told me about a place called AeroCrypt, where my fertilized eggs
could be stored. The children are all twins,
born by surrogate mothers. Carlos and I had one son already, he
was my only single birth and according to Bob I made medical
history for having so many twins. I also have twins with Bob and I'm not
allowed to see any of the kids except at a distance, except the
one son that I raised. At the start of the new revolution in
1984 the Federalists forced Eric and Carlos away from me, even
denying me my own children; I see them only for a minute once in
a while. No one has explained to me why after all these years;
the cover-up continues.
Wes: What happened to Militia One after 1984?
Debra: Missouri Militia One is still a clandestine unit
unmatched in intelligence gathering. I don't think anyone is
better other than Interpol who are the world's best and worked
hand in hand with us. It is still underground, but beginning in
1984 became a real military unit and the secret General became a
real General. He'll retire one of these days - a hero at a
time our nation needed one. He volunteered a lot of years out of
his life for all of us; I am greatly indebted. He was joined by
a huge team that uses force and I can't disclose much, but we
termed them the Federalists as far back as 1969.
At this point
I have told them to go to hell and I'm talking now because they
changed the plans. The missing people found alive as far as I
know were never allowed back to the families they were kidnapped
from and that makes me mad. The victims of the mass grave sites
were never returned to the families for burial and that too
angers me. Since 1984 the Federalists have kept it covered up, but
a few of us victims around the nation are going public. The
difference between me and other people is that other people are not yet aware
of that a coup
already happened, and that a revolution is going on as we speak, one that
lasted twenty three years already. The news media of course know
me, but we don't have free press. If we did, the alternative media
wouldn't be a fast growing product. People need truth, people
need free press and people need their questions answered.
Thank you very much, Debra. This has been a very interesting and
informative interview, and I appreciate that you are opening up
to tell this story to the world, showing people what is going on
over their heads without them having a clue. It is time to wake
up to the truth, because we don't have much time.
had no idea about this coup, which tells me how much is still
hidden from public view, and how much we, who research this,
still have to learn. The more I research, the more I realize
I've only hit the tip of the iceberg...
"Many of them involved with Hitler were Satanists." Pat
Robertson Jan 21, 1993.
I reached into the darkness
To grasp what I could find
But couldn't get a grip
Not even on my mind
Encircled by a darkness
Like a thick fog engulfing me
Finding not my memory
Looking but couldn't see
Into the darkness I stepped
Falling to my knees
Crying for my lost mind
Dragging my soul behind me
Poem by Debra Hunter Pitts, aka Layla Cries (1996)
Stay tuned for
Part 2 of the Debra Hunter Pitts interview, which will be
published soon. It will reveal who really wrote the lyrics to
one of the most famous hit songs in the world, "Layla", played
by Derek and the Dominos in 1970, and the true murder story that
the song is revealing. We will also continue discussing some of
the other famous faces entrapped by the Satanic Nazi groups in
the biz that led up to an all star cast in the making of an
unnamed, unreleased romantic comedy in Tarrant County. Texas, in
Debra being interviewed by Gina Romano, broadcast on "The
Edge Radio", April 24, 2008. This is an excellent interview,
in which she gives even more details about what went on and
still goes on all around us.
Once the page
has loaded, scroll to 53 minutes and 40 seconds into the
program, where the interview starts. The following icon will
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just released his book, "Clapton, the Autobiography". He
is still reluctant to talk about this whole thing due to that
the Government is still not willing to release this information,
but is giving hints as to where he stands. Here is from page
"I tend toward conspiracy phobia in all things of this
nature, including politics. With the amount of money that's
at stake, I don't believe the likes of Rupert Murdoch or
George Bush are inclined to leave very much to chance. Call
me cynical, but every other week someone gets caught or
spills the beans."
Clapton is not bringing up the issue with Militia One and Debra
Pitts the book can
not be seen as an honest
attempt to tell the truth. Hopefully Eric can find courage some
time in the near future, just like Debbie has done now, to come
out with the truth. For him, though, much is at stake. Of
course, he is a very public figure (everybody knows who he is),
and he may feel his life and his career are threatened, so
therefore he does not want to mention it and sticks to the lies
and half-truths. Wes
Wes Penre is a
researcher, journalist, the owner of the domains
Zionist Watch and is the publisher of the
same. He has been researching Globalization and the New World
Order and exposed the big players behind the scenes for more
than a decade now. He has published his research on the Internet
at the above domains, which are currently updated to keep people
informed what is going on. You can also find his articles linked
up, discussed and republished all over the Internet.
with Debra Hunter Pitts, aka Layla Cries
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