Jeff Rense Interview With Bill Hamilton
Regarding Dan Burisch

Created: Saturday, May 29, 2004 02:16:19 PM

Transcript of the Rense radio show date 7th April 2004

 

 Transcript commences approximately 1 hour 35 minutes into the show.

>COMMERCIAL BREAK< (01:35)

Bill Hamilton Jeff Rense

BILL:

LEADING TO DAN BURISCH, I WOULD LIKE TO COVER SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

I’LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON THAT I MET IN 1994 WHO WAS GIVING ME VERY SIMILAR INFORMATION TO THAT I GOT FROM A RETIRED MARINE SERGEANT, THAT WAS BILL UHOUSE A RETIRED MECHANICAL DESIGN ENGINEER WHO HAD WORKED AT LOS ALAMOS ON A FLYING SAUCER FLIGHT SIMULATOR, THAT IS HIS STORY, AND I WAS AMUSED WHEN HE FIRST TOLD HIS STORY AT RACHEL NEVADA, AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS UP THERE, THAT THE ADVISOR ON THE PROJECT HE WAS WORKING ON WAS A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL BIOLOGICAL ENTITY (E.B.E.) THAT HE KNEW AS J-ROD. HE SAID THAT J-ROD WAS AN E.B.E. WHO HAD SURVIVED THE CRASH AT KINGMAN ARIZONA.

IN FACT HE SAID THAT FOUR ENTITIES HAD SURVIVED ALL TOGETHER. I HAVE TRIED TO GET FURTHER DATA ON THE FAMOUS KINGMAN CRASH, I HAVE EVEN CALLED THE LIBRARY IN KINGMAN, THEY SAY THEY DO HAVE A FILE BUT DON’T HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THE MOST I COULD FIND OUT WAS A ROAD I COULD TAKE NORTH OF KINGMAN TO THE SITE OF THE CRASH RETRIEVAL. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN 1953 ACCORDING TO THE DATA I HAVE ON IT. THIS RESULTED IN A PROJECT THAT BILL UHOUSE WORKED ON THAT EMPLOYED HIM TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A FLIGHT SIMULATOR, THAT OUR AIRMEN, OUR PILOTS, COULD USE, IN LEARNING TO FLY A SAUCER.

BILL UHOUSE SAID HE HAD WORKED ON THIS PROJECT AT BOTH LOS ALAMOS AND AREA 51, BILL UHOUSE ALSO HAD A BROTHER THAT SAID HE WORKED OUT THERE. THE BROTHER SAID HE HAD WORKED ON ANOTHER PROJECT AT AREA 51, WELL, MORE SPECIFICALLY S4. I FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT BILL UHOUSE TALKED ABOUT THIS J-ROD AND WE HAD CONFIRMATION FROM A RETIRED USAF MAJOR WHO WAS IN AIRFORCE INTELLIGENCE, HE SAID HE ALSO KNEW OF THE J-ROD. I SAID TO MYSELF…MY GOODNESS, IF WE COULD JUST FOCUS ON FINDING TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS J-ROD, PERHAPS WE COULD PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF AT LEAST ONE, THAT’S ALL WE NEED, ONE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL BIOLOGICAL ENTITY.

JEFF:

So, the important thing here is that this was mentioned from two different sources.

BILL:

THEN I RAN ACROSS A WEBSITE THAT HAD BEEN PUT UP BY BJ WOLF, THAT IS NO LONGER THERE, BUT ITS BEING RECONSTRUCTED. THERE WAS A DOCUMENT ON THIS WEBSITE THAT REFERRED TO A Q J-ROD AND THAT STOPPED ME, I FIRST RAN ACROSS THIS IN 1999. I CONTACTED BJ WOLF AND REQUESTED A COPY OF THE DOCUMENT, NOW KNOWN AS THE >Q 94 A< DOCUMENT. THE DOCUMENT WAS SIGNED BY CAPTAIN U.S. NAVY DANNY B. CRAIN PHD, I SAID ‘WELL THAT’S INTERESTING’…I STAYED IN TOUCH WITH BJ WOLF, ON AND OFF, ……WELL, I KINDA LOST TOUCH WITH HER FOR A WHILE BUT GOT HER TO RESPOND TO MY E-MAILS IN EARLY 2002 AGAIN. THEN, IN APRIL SHE CONSENTED TO MY SUGGESTION THAT WE SHOULD MEET IN LAS VEGAS, WE DID MEET, BUT BEFORE I LEFT, BJ CALLED ME BACK ON THE PHONE AND ASKED ME IF I WOULD LIKE TO MEET THE SIGNER OF THAT DOCUMENT (Q 94 A) , DR CRAIN, WHO HAD CHANGED HIS NAME LEGALLY TO DR DAN B.C. BURISCH. (DAN HAD CHANGED HIS NAME FOR PERSONAL REASONS).

I MET DAN IN APRIL 2002, IT IS NOW APRIL 2004 AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH DAN. AND…..ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS I WAS PERMITTED TO INTERVIEW HIM….ON VIDEO, AND FIND OUT ABOUT HIS CURRENT PROJECT.

>COMMERCIAL BREAK< (01:42)

BILL HAMILTON DISCUSSES DAN BURISCH AS MAIN TOPIC

JEFF:

As you folks know, Bill has been on here many times along with BJ Wolf to discuss this topic at quite some length.

How many times have you met with Dan now?

 

BILL:

I HAVE NOW LOST COUNT OF HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE MET DAN BURISCH. I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE MET HIM EITHER NOW, I HAVE TWO FRIENDS OF MINE WHO HAVE BEEN WITH ME, WHO HAVE TALKED WITH HIM, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE MET WITH HIM AND BJ WOLF RECENTLY (ED: Harry and Sterling?)

JEFF:

Now the idea about Dan Burisch, either with or without the blessings of his handlers, even though he is a brilliant scientist apparently, he is choosing on his own to release information that is highly sensitive. Or is he being allowed to do it? Encouraged to do it? That’s the big question.

 

BILL:

YES HE IS A VERY BRILLIANT SCIENTIST…….WELL THE STATEMENT THAT I GOT FROM HIS SECURITY WATCHDOG, THAT ARRANGED THIS VERY LAST MEETING I HAD WITH HIM IN MARCH, CAUGHT MY EYE…..BECAUSE……HE STATED TO ME, "YOUR MEETING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED WITH DOCTOR …..(EVERYTHINGS VERY FORMAL) …….DOCTOR DANNY B. CATSELAS BURISCH, DIRECTOR OF PROJECT LOTUS AND MISS (Ed note, yes >MISS<, this fact was also emphasised by Bill in his intonation) MISS DEBORAH KAY BURISCH, CO-DIRECTOR OF PROJECT LOTUS. THIS SCHEDULING WAS DIRECTED BY THE 12 MAJI. THE REASON FOR THE SCHEDULING WAS NOT LISTED"…….NOW THAT’S……THAT’S QUITE A STATEMENT. SET UP BY THE 12 MAJI?! EVERYTHING WAS PUT IN THIS NOTICE IN A VERY FORMAL MANNER. BUT HE (DAN) WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD BE GIVING A BRIEFING TO AN OUT OF TOWN DIGNATORY. ….OK?….….THOUGH I SUSPECTED WHEN I FIRST SIGHTED DAN, THAT HE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE ME……BECAUSE HE HAD REFERRED AND ASKED ME IF THIS WAS JUST LIKE A PREVIOUS MEETING….AND I SAID….. "YEP,.. YOU GOT IT". THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I MET WITH HIS WIFE, WHO IS ALSO INVOLVED, …..DEBORAH BURISCH…..VERY….…….YOU MIGHT SAY……. ALMOST THE OPPOSITE OF DAN AS FAR AS DISCLOSURE. DAN WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT IT ALL TO ITS HEARTS CONTENT, SHE WOULD RATHER KEEP HER LIPS CLOSED…(LAUGHTER)……..BUT SHE DID MAKE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING STATEMENTS. SHE KEPT PRETTY STILL DURING THE TIME THAT HE WAS GIVING ME THE..ERRR…BRIEFING STATEMENT.

JEFF:

Now, it’s known that he is married?

 

BILL:

YES, YES, I HAVE A RECORD OF …..ITS AMAZING, I HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS, AND A LOT OF RECORDS ON THIS PERSON.

JEFF:

Does she have advanced education as well?

 

BILL:

AHHHM, I HAVE JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT, THAT, YES SHE DOES, SHE HAS A BACHELORS DEGREE FROM UNLV, JUST AS HE DOES.

JEFF:

She is in the military? Right?

 

BILL:

NO…..NONE OF THEM ARE REALLY IN THE MILITARY RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE CIVILIANS………OK, NOW DAN SAYS THAT…. "THE PERSONNEL OF PROJECT LOTUS WELCOME YOU TO THIS SHORT BRIEFING, AS DIRECTOR OF PROJECT LOTUS IT HAS BEEN MY PLEASURE TO FORMALLY GUIDE THE SCIENTIFIC, METAPHYSICAL EXPLORATION INTO PHENOMENA GREAT CENTRAL WORKS IN HUMANITY SINCE ITS FORMAL INCEPTION IN JANUARY 2001. PROJECT LOTUS, THIS IS HIS CURRENT PROJECT NOW, HE IS NOT WORKING ON ANY EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL BEINGS, BUT IT IS………….IT WAS STIMULATED BY, INFORMATION THAT HE RECEIVED FROM THIS BEING. WHICH HE WENT ON TO RESEARCH. AND ITS IN THE FINAL STAGES OF ‘MODEL DEVELOPMENT’ AS HE CALLS IT. AND HE WAS ORDERED TO HAVE IT READY BY MARCH 15TH, WELL, BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

JEFF:

What is project Lotus?

 

BILL:

ARGH, THAT’S KINDA COMPLEX BUT WHAT IT DEALS WITH, IT STEMS OUT OF FINDING THE GENESIS SEED OF LIFE, THAT STARTED LIFE ON THIS PLANET. SEE, ….EARTH…….IN ITS EARLY STAGES OF EVOLUTION, WAS NOT A….ERR….A HABITABLE PLANET, I MEAN THERE WERE, ERM…THE GASSES IN THE ATMOSPHERE, MAINLY CARBON DIOXIDE, METHANE, THESE TYPES OF GASSES, THE TEMPERATURE AT THE SURFACE, IT WAS ALL KIND OF ANTI-LIFE, SO HOW DID LIFE GAIN A FOOTHOLD HERE? HOW DID IT ALL START? RIGHT? THIS IS A MYSTERY THAT MANY EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGISTS HAVE WRESTLED WITH FOR A LONG TIME. WELL, DAN FEELS THAT HIS DISCOVERY MAY EXPLAIN ALL OF THAT. HE HAS DISCOVERED A PARTICLE THAT……NOT ONLY REGENERATES CELLS, BUT CAN PRODUCE STEMCELLS, AND CAN EVEN PRODUCE DIFFERENTIATED CELLS. AS IF THIS PARTICLE HAD WITHIN IT A STORED PROGRAMME, AND IT TRANSMITTED THIS INFORMATION. SO THAT HE COULD BUILD SOME OF THE RUDIMENTARY FORMS OF *INNER CELLULAR LIFE.YOU KNOW, LIKE….. BACTERIA IN THE EARLY YEARS.

 

 

>COMMERCIAL BREAK< 01:50

 

 

JEFF

At one point, I was under the impression that Dan was pretty much out of the picture, for what ever reason, but he seems to be very much back in it again.

 

BILL:

YES…YES HE IS. WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT TOO, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. BUT NOW……YOU MIGHT SAY KNOWLEDGE OF HIM IS GETTING TO BE A LOT SPREAD, AT LEAST ON THE INTERNET. RECENTLY, SOMEONE SCANNED IN A PHOTO OF DANNY CRAIN (Ed, These scans were made available via the GLP forum, by a poster called ‘Craig’) LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT WAS PROBABLY TAKEN BACK IN THE EIGHTIES IN A UNIVERSITY LABORATORY. AND THERE’S A CAPTION TO IT SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN A PERIODICAL…. ON SCIENCE STUDENTS, AND..AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, DAN HAD THE AMBITION OF DOING MEDICAL RESEARCH. HE WANTED TO GET A MEDICAL DEGREE AND FIND A CURE FOR CANCER. HE WAS WORKING ON IT, EVEN AS AN UNDERGRADUATE, AND HE WAS INVESTIGATING THE ROLE OF *HYPODAYLIGHT COMPOUNDS AND THE ENHANCEMENT OF ANTHROGEN RECOGNITION BY LINTHOSYTES. THIS WAS CRUCIAL IN THE RECOGNITION OF FOREIGN MATERIALS AND CANCER CELLS. BUT, WHAT HE IS DOING EXPERIMENTS ON NOW, IS JUST ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE, AND THIS IS NOT INFORMATION THAT IS BEING PUBLISHED IN SCIENTIFIC JOURNALS, IT’S NOT GETTING OUT TO THE WORLD. BUT DAN FEELS THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE WORLD.

JEFF:

Well, his bosses must not disagree with him.

 

BILL:

WELL, I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, I’VE ASKED FOR CERTAIN THINGS, THROUGH CHANNELS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE…………ERM,…. THEY SAY YES TO SOMETHINGS, AND NO TO OTHERS (LAUGHS) BUT THEY HAVE PLACED ME IN CONTACT, NOT ONLY IN CONTACT WITH HIM BUT ALSO THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, THAT YOU KNOW IS BJ WOLF, YOU KNOW SHE’S BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE PROGRAMME NOW. AND SO I MEET WITH BOTH OF THEM AND RECENTLY DAN DID AN EXPERIMENT, HE CONDUCTED AN ENHANCED REPLICATION TO LORRENZO SPALLANZANI’S FAMOUS EXPERIMENT, THAT SET THE NOTION OF A BIO-GENESIS……DIRECT , NOW A BIOGENESIS IS GENESIS FROM NONE BIOLOGICAL MATERIAL. BUT THE EXPERIMENT THAT DAN DID, THE ENHANCED REPLICATION, CONFIRMED SPALLANZANI’S ORIGINAL RESULTS, AND…WHAT’S AMAZING IS, HE USED SPECIALLY FUNNELLED CULTURE FLASKS, THAT FOCUSED THE LOTUS PARTICLE PRODUCTION ON THE REACTION SURFACES AND NOVEL RESULTS WERE OBTAINED BECAUSE DAN SAYS THAT WITHIN A WEEK OF SPECIALISED SUBSTRATE AND VOLTAGE APPLICATION, PROTOCELLS WERE PRODUCED AND BY A WEEKS TIME, THOSE PROTOCELLS HAD DIFFERENTIATED INTO CYCLING EUKARYOTIC CELLS. NOW……ONE HAS TO BE A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH BIOLOGY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AN ASTOUNDING STATEMENT THAT IS. IN OTHER WORDS……HE’S EVOLVING PROTOCELLS, ……DIFFERENTIATED CELLS FROM PROTOCELL STRUCTURES NOT IN MILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION, BUT HE’S TALKING ABOUT IN A WEEKS TIME… AND …………. ONE OF THE ………….THINGS THAT HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON IS……..PRODUCTION OF…………WHAT APPEAR TO BE, ………………….OH…..MATURING NEURONS, NEURONIC CELLS, RIGHT? AND HE HAD……PAGES AND PAGES OF TECHNICAL NOTES THAT HE HAD TAKEN ON THAT PARTICULAR EXPERIMENT. SO I WONT GO INTO THE TECHNICAL DETAILS HERE ANY FURTHER, BUT, …………WHAT IS AMAZING FOR ME, OK. IS THAT EVERY TIME I HAVE MET WITH DAN, OUR CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN LISTENED IN ON, RECORDED, PLAYED BACK TO ME, E-MAIL HAS BEEN INTERCEPTED FROM ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS. IN OTHER WORDS…….AND ALSO CONVERSATION WAS LISTENED IN ON WHEN ONE OF MY CO-RESEARCHERS AND I WERE WALKING, OUT IN THE WOODS, IN THE VICINITY OF WHERE HE LIVES. AND WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN PICKED UP, AND ……KIND OF……SO TO SPEAK, PLAYED BACK TO ME. SO I KNEW THAT THEY WERE LISTENING IN. THAT USED SOME…….THEY CLAIM THEY USE SOME CONVENTIONAL TECHNOLOGY HERE, WHICH WAS LASER BOUNCING. AND THAT’S POSSIBLE, BUT THEY ALSO EMPLOYED (SIGHS) ARRR..AS A MANNER OF GATHERING INFORMATION, REMOTE VIEWING TECHNIQUES. THEIR REMOTE VIEWERS COME BACK WITH INFORMATION....I HAVE SEEN INFORMATION THAT IS SO DETAILED, SO PRECISE AND SO ACCURATE……… FROM REMOTE VIEWING, THAT IT MAKES ME WONDER…..WHAT IT IS THAT THEY HAVE MADE A BREAKTHROUGH ON. I DO NOT KNOW YOUR AMATEUR REMOTE VIEWER TO BE >THAT ACCURATE<…..AS THEY ARE.

JEFF:

Who has shown you this information?

BILL:

DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?……..

JEFF:

Yeah, who has shown you this remote viewing information?

 

BILL:

ERR IT WAS SENT TO ME……….THAT’S ALL I CAN SAY.

JEFF:

And what was the target? Can you give me a generic answer?

 

BILL:

THE TARGET WAS DAN, IN HIS APARTMENT…….AND I MEAN THERE WERE A LOT OF DETAILS ABOUT IT. BUT….. THERE WERE OTHER INSTANCES, A LITTLE SHORTER ERMMM….LITTLE BRIEFS THAT WERE SENT TO ME.

JEFF:

So Bill, who is sending these to you?

BILL (LAUGHS)

JEFF:

You have no idea?

 

BILL:

THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT LITTLE MONIKERS, THEY DON’T USE NAMES, THEY USE MONIKERS. ………….SO…………..THERE MIGHT BE ONE WHO’S USING A NAME.

JEFF:

Now, lets try to put Dan Burisch in some kind of perspective….He’s not the only one working on these kinds of projects, he’s obviously a genius. What does this mean in the short term to all of us? This kind of discovery, that your being allowed to participate in, about black ops, or black budget science.

 

BILL:

I THINK SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, SOME OF THIS…. SCIENCE….IS GOING TO BE MADE AVAILABLE IN THE SHORT TERM FUTURE………PROBABLY………HOPEFULLY………FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY.

JEFF:

Yeah…..Military first………..The rest of us folks second………

 

BILL:

WELL, THE MILITARY’S INTERESTED IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. …..AND THE OTHER ASPECT…..OF COURSE YOU KNOW AS BIO-WARFARE.

JEFF:

Which has achieved a level right now that could wipe out all life on the planet. No problem at all, if somebody were to release it or want that to happen.

 

BILL:

WELL, DANS BEEN ASKED TO WORK ON SUCH PROJECTS, EVEN AS RECENTLY AS ……ERRR…. AS RECENTLY AS LAST YEAR….AND HE TURNED IT DOWN. BUT HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME ASPECTS OF THAT EARLIER ON, AND IT’S REPUGNANT TO HIM.

JEFF:

You mentioned that BJ Wolf had been taken into the programme, now in my conversations with her in the past, I remember her being EXTREMELY afraid, for her safety, for Dan’s safety, and they pulled her in to the programme, she’s doing OK, I assume she may well be listening.

 

BILL:

LET ME TELL YOU THIS JEFF…I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A TRANSFORMATION IN A PERSON.…….SHE LOOKS VERY PEACEFUL…..AT EASE…….SHE FEELS SAFE……..SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S DOING THE RIGHT THING, SHE FEELS LIKE SHE IS WORKING ON SOMETHING VERY POSITIVE…….SO OBVIOUSLY, THERES MANY FACTIONS HERE………..AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING AGAINST US……(LAUGHTER)

JEFF

Give my best wishes to BJ etc……..

 

BILL:

BUT NOW, WE SIT THERE, WE TALK, WE LAUGH, WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS

 

JEFF

Well BJ, I should imagine you’re listening ….and I’m very pleased to hear all this , that’s good. Bill, thank you for this update, this story gets more and more amazing all the time.

 

BILL:

YES IT DOES.

 

JEFF:

And I’m really glad they have selected you, to be the man to pass that along if you are able, I know there’s much more you don’t talk about but……

 

BILL:

THAT"S RIGHT

 

JEFF:

……..we will be here again Bill, we’ll talk again thank you.

Note

A * denotes that the word is difficult to distinguish from the audio.

Transcript by Boomerang from GLP Forum

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